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RE: Real time driving and its fuckery

in Galenkp's Stuff7 months ago

Hybrid is the way to go, and even with these new plasmoid cylinders that recycle the exhaust gases that are being developed - that’s going to be good for the emissions standpoint. Full electric is a load of shit, it’s too limiting in its capabilities and charging.

I don’t mind these things too much for company vehicles, but they better not do this with personal vehicles. That’s where the powers that shouldn’t be would like to head but we have to draw the line.

I would likely be up there on most of those metrics lol I drive like an old man, my wife makes fun of me all the time that I drive too slow. Saves the gas mileage! Lol

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Give me electric any day. Once the electric utes start coming out then you'll see what an electric motor really can do. Remember, there's a reason why trains have an electric drive instead of a diesel drive. The torque simply can't be matched by stupid dinosaur vehicles.

Range is an issue but here in New Zealand they're pretty close to having a charging station every 75kms or so so it's not too bad here. Where most of the chargers are they have a cafe so it's not that bad spending 15 minutes to get to 80%. Hell, most of small town New Zealand exists because of range anxiety. First it was horses then the range of petrol cars, now the range of electric.

In a place like New Zealand, maybe it's a good idea. The fact of the matter is electric alone right now is foolish in a world where we drive for hours and hundreds of miles in many cultures and countries in the world. Having to lose your car for an hour or more in ideal conditions is a comical request to make.

If they can improve the solar charging technology and efficiently cover a car in solar panels, sure that's one thing. Until that time though, if all you're driving is 75 kms you can have your electric car. I drove that the other day just doing errands and a trip with my kid to a place he wanted to go, and that was one way.

I know electric cars have the motors which can do great things but I don't care for them in their current state. It is incredibly inefficient, and if you think that they are "green", you are sorely mistaken. Where do you think the energy that charges them comes from most places? Coal sadly.

Appreciate your perspective though! A healthy debate helps us find flaws in our thinking :)

Umm, it doesn't take an hour to charge using a proper charger. Those times are for the trickle charging units using your house power supply. The average charger here will get you to 80% in around 15 to 30 minutes. For long distance travelling taking 15 minute breaks is actually a GOOD thing because it lessens the risks of tired travellers.

My folks have a 2018 Nissan Leaf and live about 300kms away. It's not a flat motorway either. Massive hills make up the trip. They tell me they only need 1 charge to get to us. That's only a 15 minute delay, maybe 30 minutes. Even still, that's an average delay for most people anyway on long trips.

Add to that, if you drive like Galen mentions then you can literally use regen braking to lessen the need of charging anyway. Driven the correct way you can even get more power than you started with in some circumstances.

One of my personal vehicles is a twin turbo V8 four wheel drive that runs on dinosaur juice (diesel) so I'm with you on the electric vehicles are shit thing...the infrastructure and tech needs to improve before it is viable, but they do a good job with marketing and suck people in nonetheless.

I think having concepts like telematics is good for companies though, helps to promote safer driving.

Yeah I don’t mind it for company or government vehicles - it makes sense. One thing I don’t care for in my personal vehicle is the increase in computerization of it all. Electric steering instead of power. Wireless keys and shit. More things to break and be expensive fixes lol stupid

I'm not into all the driver aids like lane-keeping, auto braking and all...it promotes bad driving, reliance on systems and I'm not into that.