I saw a celebrity's post about being rejected or refused to partake in a church program he was meant to coordinate because he got divorced.
So the question is:
Is church supposed to be a place of seeking and getting support in time of trials or it's a place for casting sinners or backsliders away?
...they will make the church a place where they give support during trial and also a place where they preach to sinners, and follow them up, not casting them away
Exactly 💯. Correct and discipline them in love, and not leaving them off to be captured by the devil. Only if such person refuses to repent and continuously wallow in sin
That is just the point. But these days, church members and pastor don't really care like before
It depends on what he was rejected for. Coordinating an event on a subject that is his spiritual weakness may not be the right job for him. Participating should be generally lenient, though.
Based on the story, he was not allowed to participate. I agree with you that he can't be allowed to lead any sort of program but at least participate and be brought back with God's word
It's for both, actually.
As a church, every member is important and each should be treated as such. And that means being supportive and loving when each needs it and disciplining them when they are going on the wrong path.
Discipline shouldn't mean hating or making them feel worse about themselves, I think that's where a lot of churches get it wrong.
Really wrong because how on earth do you want to explain losing a sheep to the wolf because he did what he wasn't supposed to do.
Have you heard about some saying "they hand them over to the devil" before?
They didn't say, it's actually written in the Bible. Even God disciplines or punishes who He loves, most of us humans just don't do it out of love.
Don't get me wrong. I know it's in the Bible but there's a clause before that can come in.
But in a case where it's probably the first mistake and he or she is even willing to make amends but because they don't want to be seen associated with him/her, they bring that in.
Nah, that's wrong of them.
There are patterns to watch out for, if the person is willing to make amends, why push them away?
Shey you get! Pushing them away is not in any way proving the parable of the shepherd looking for the one lost sheep when he even had a whole 99
Yeah hopefully cos what's the significance of salvation they preach when they shut the door against it
D is a big question right here, I will answer it to the best of my understanding. d church should be everyone's refuge place in the time of needs,joy,sorry, happiness. The church should be open too, belivers and sinners cos that is one of the main purpose of the church
It's been the opposite this era actually and it's so disheartening.
That's why you see people ending up destructively because where they are supposed to be corrected with love, disowned them and chased them off.
No love again in our churches these days, and if there is still love, only few left. Church has now turned into fashion show where people flaunts new clothes and pastor's preaches what people want to hear
But looking at the way some of our churches are today, a lot has happened because people who haven't been called, those who don't even have the understanding of how to led a church now have churches.
Yessss I agree with you on this. This will really be the cause truly.
So many spiritual leaders out there who are not even led by the spirit or have the basic knowledge of how to lead their members
B4 you walk from one junction to another, you see like 3 churches with different names and man made doctrines. Now, tell me how those type of churches will support someone during trial when they themselves don't have the basic understanding of what a church is
Likeeeee! Churches are now so many even more than fuel station or schools that people compare it with before and the more churches we have, the more sinful the world becomes
You are right! That is to show you one thing. They are not preaching the true gospel. They just want to feed people with what they need to hear and collect their money in form of offering
What I'm trying to say is that, a church is not just the building but the sanctified people coming together to do god's work, and when sets of people understand what they are in for...
There might even be yet sanctified people amongst and that is why it is compulsory that churches are led by word-driven leaders who would always feed people with true words of God and not just there to pass verdict when they go wrong
Yes, we still have some like that, but they are few. Few chosen ones, plenty self acclaimed pastors
Exactly! I agree with this. And some people have weaponized religion to be that
Sincerely speaking... Some may actually end up been judged based on this whole religion issue aside normal normal sins committed
You are right. People judge us based on religion and a lot of hypocrites too
That's just it. HYPOCRISY
It has eaten dip into religion and is ripping off the main truth people are meant to know. Unless you know God personally for you not to be waved off
Exactly 💯.... But in this case it's not the religion but the people leading and there's so much misconception these leaders are building in the hearts of people.
It's all about interpretation of the bible and there is reason to perceive its words as saying that divorce or many other things are not permissible. The problem is more the Bible itself and not as much those who try to interpret it.
I won't be agreeing to this in anyway though. There are processes and standards to things and for the fact that something doesn't favour us in an act does not write it off to be a problem.
The Bible has instructions laid down for whoever wants to have a divorce both in OT and NT
The feed people with what they want to hear just because those people haven't decided to study and know what is right, they get easily manipulated
That's just it. Be rooted in the word of God yourself and not cos someone said it
I believe the house of God, be it church or mosque should be a place for everyone including the broken.
Because if it's a place for those who are perfect then a lot of people don't belong there.
You cute a headache not cut off the head.