Well, we are all owners and should think like owners. This is definitely a good conversation to have. Can Hive support a user base that is 80% frequent extractors? Probably not, but it's a good thing that most of us stack and stake more than we take.
Everyone who comes in is an owner also, and can do what they wish with what they own, REMEMBER? If there is an owner's association with rules, perhaps we should let people know coming in. That's fair. Classing people as "extractors" who do not know is not.
There is no owners association. Just a bunch of owners including new users. And yes everyone can do what they wish with what they own. I use the term extractors as a descriptive term not derogatory. Most of us intend to extract at some point.
I guess another point and why I think this is a good conversation to have, is that new users should realize that people can do with their stake as they wish and it is good for them to build their stake as well in order to have a greater voice.
I know there is no owners' association -- THAT'S MY POINT. Meanwhile, you are not the only one using the term "extractors," and there are literally people building "enemies' lists" and tracking each and every one of us for downvotes based on a metric they are not sharing with us.
"Extractors," "milkers," "leeches" -- the terms change, but they are out here to have us feeling superior and ignoring the humanity of fellow Hivers who are trying to survive -- to have us consent to DEHUMANIZE THEM.
Look, I can't speak for anyone else, but nowhere in this conversation have I demonized or dehumanized anybody. Nor have I asked anybody to consent to anything. All I've said is that it's good to have conversations about extracting.
No, you haven't ... but I hope you think about where on Hive you adopted that language from. I am an investor in crypto, and specifically in Hive. I take profit at appropriate time, according to my wishes. That's AFFIRMING language of my freedom.
You are responsible for your own perception. I explained exactly how I used the term.
And I asked you to think of where you got it from, and told you there is history to the term on Hive and some folks with agendas pushing it. Now, I can't make you think or tell you what to think, but the power of suggestion is amazing ...
Got the term from the dictionary. I haven't been a part of whatever recent hive drama as it relates to that term.
How is it that we cannot talk EVERYONE here and use freedom-affirming language about THEIR CHOICES?
We all have freedom here as stated near the beginning of our conversation. Do I need to affirm your freedom in order for it to be so? Not anymore than I need to affirm the freedom of those you said are building "enemies lists". Freedom is acknowledged and established as fact.
No, we do not to affirm it. It exists. We also do not have to agree that the freedom of others is a problem. Hive is not being endangered by those who need to earn a living here ... that's provably not pushing inflation or the price drops we have seen.
Who said it was? Not me. Not the OP as far as I can tell. Maybe I missed something. Who are you arguing against?
Furthermore, we know where the inflation is coming from. Dalz's data settled this -- it's big accounts, not small ones. https://peakd.com/hive-133987/@dalz/what-is-causing-the-additional-hive-inflation-in-the-last-months-where-does-it-comes-from
Inflation is kind of irrelevant to this conversation, but HBD stabilization is a good thing. Inflation will decrease over time as mandated by the code. Users like us and certainly new users have virtually no effect on inflation.
So then we need not talk about the "80 percent extractors" ... that's not what is causing the rises and falls in value.