It is frustrating to try to eat "right" in SE Asia

in ASEAN HIVE COMMUNITY2 months ago

I had to write about this because I just spent the past hour or so in a fruitless venture to attempt to put some items in my fridge that aren't terrible, processed garbage that doesn't really even qualify as food but somehow manages to have more carbs and sodium than you should likely have in a day.

This probably isn't limited to Vietnam and Thailand, the two countries that I have spent the most time living in, in this part of the world, but it is just so frustrating that the food economy exists like this.


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I want to dispel a myth that a lot of people have about this part of the world and that is that Asian food is somehow good for you. Any country's food can be good for you but most countries gravitate towards cheap garbage food that is really bad for you and SE Asia is not exempt from this. You honestly think that fried rice, spring rolls, and Pad Thai are good for you? Go ahead and look the nutritional information up for those things and you will find that you may as well eat Big Macs because the health benefits (or lack thereof) are essentially the same. In many cases they are worse for you.

So when I decided about 2 months ago - I honestly don't remember when I started - that I was going to start eating clean it suddenly dawned on me that this is extremely difficult to pull off. Basically everywhere sells processed crap and even restaurants that advertise "healthy food" are selling deep fried version of something that would be healthy if they were to prepare it literally any other way. So why do they do it like this? Well, because it is really easy, fast, and cheap to chuck a bunch of whatever into some boiling palm oil (one of the worst oils but also the cheapest) and slap it on top of some lukewarm rice than it is for them to make something that takes some time.


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The most famous dish in Vietnam is probably Pho (pronounced "fuh" not "foe") but herein we run into the same problem once something is mass produced. If it is cheap, they are using bullshit noodles, msg, and now you've taken something that was once healthy and you've turned it into a carb nightmare that has about the same nutritional value as a double quarter pounder with cheese. The average street Pho is estimated to contain 60-100 grams of carbs and a mere 20 grams of protein. Basically it is the opposite of healthy despite what people looking at it might think.

It's still better than sucking down a extra value meal with large friend and a Coke, but healthy? Not really.

getting back to my specific frustration this morning ans I was walking around looking specifically for greek yogurt - a product that appears sporadically in stores here then for some reason goes away, sometimes for months at a time.

In the meantime though, the markets that sell this stuff supplement their now empty yogurt shelves with sugary processed crap that for whatever reason, doesn't ever seem to run out.


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There is a yogurt company here called Da Lat and for whatever reason, the shops are NEVER out of this stuff. Anytime I go into a shop there are hundreds of containers of this stuff. However, this yogurt contains added sugar, virtually no protein - which is the opposite of what I am looking for once again. I'm sure they are doing the best that they can (or what they found is marketable) but at the same time this product is missing out on most of the health benefits of what people who are concerned about their health eat yogurt for in the first place. It has nearly as much fat in it as it does protein and therefore, I am not going to eat it.

I think this is a very strong reflection of the society that we live in though because we get told ALL THE TIME that we are supposed to eat certain things like whole foods and things with natural ingredients but when you go into a store they almost always don't have these things in stock. I don't know what Frito Lay is doing so well but those guys seem to have an endless supply of Doritos. I have never seen a shop run out of potato chips / crisps. But most of the time if I go into any store and want to buy some fruit or vegetables, they are always sold out.

So if the idea is to make money in these shops, wouldn't it make at least some sense to restock the products that are constantly sold out? All of these stores that I go to have a point of sale / inventory system, so it shouldn't be a huge surprise to the staff when they run out of it. The stores I went into today had cookies, sweets, and chips piled up to the roof but a produce section that was just pathetic to look at. Of course there were Snickers and Coca-Cola in great enough quantities to give half the town diabetes.

I wonder if the western world is like this as well. I would imagine that it is seeing as how the obesity rates over there are higher than here by far. We are told to eat healthy but then it is just far more difficult to actually obtain these items. I can, 24-hours a day, get a burger and fries with no issue but if I want a salad, or some fruit, or even just a piece of meat that isn't deep fried, it is a difficult process.

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My wife and I were watching some cooking show on TV the other day and they were visiting a Thai restaurant here in the states and she commented about how much oil and sugar they use in all the dishes. I knew they used a lot of oil, but I never realized the sugar. I eat whole fat greek yogurt every weekday morning. I have tried the reduced fat stuff in the past, but they add so much sugar and artificial sweetener to it that I honestly feel like the whole fat stuff is actually healthier for you! Have you ever heard the theory about how MSG really isn't bad for you and it was a hit piece by corn growers or something like that (I don't remember exactly).

I have tried the reduced fat stuff in the past, but they add so much sugar and artificial sweetener to it that I honestly feel like the whole fat stuff is actually healthier for you!

This is absolutely true. your statement reminded me of a fad in the late 90's where there was a craze to have low-fat or no-fat alternatives to everything and everyone was reading labels ONLY for the fat content. I fell victim to this as well and we are all idiots I guess because in lieu of fat, they were throwing a ton of sweeteners in there that as it turns out is much worse for you than fat is!

Yes, this on so many levels! As always, it's important to eat everything in moderation and portion control is such a huge part of having a healthy diet. Remember the whole "Olestra" debacle?

It has been a while since I didn't shop in grocery stores. I only buy online for my personal skincare, but I go to the local market to buy vegetables and meat to cook. Fortunately, there is a store that sells whole food only walking distance from the house. Maybe you will like kefir.

We have been deceived by all the processed food found on the shelves in every air-conditioned market. I pity the children who eat hotdogs, canned goods, super sweet biscuits/cookies and junk food. They're all junk!

when I was in Mexico visiting my family last year, I noticed that they have a law there that all products that are "bad for you" have to be labeled as such. Excessive sodium, calories, fat, sugar and what not must be labeled on all products. When I was in a supermarket basically EVERYTHING had one of these labels on them. Mexico is one of the fattest countries in the world and I feel like Asia is going to go the same way if these "food" companies are not put in check a bit.

You're right. We have been imitating and conforming to what the world market is selling. Asians are looking for ways to compete in the business. It's just that it is hard to afford organic products because they are hard to find and the production is slow, making them expensive. Sad...

plus a lot of the time I don't think that people are made aware at how bad it is for someone to be consuming so much sugar and processed stuff. The corporations that make these things definitely don't want the people to be aware of this either, so unless teachers or parents try to educate their kids the people are never going to know until it is too late. Already we are seeing an uptick in heart problems and cancer problems in SE Asia.... I wonder why that is?

Right ... It must start at home, but the cafeterias/canteens in school are selling those sugary products. We live in a business world, disregarding the welfare of people. Yes, cancer cases and diabetic people are rising. Not to mention, dialysis patients are becoming younger and younger.

Well this is an interesting one. For me the main reason why I like Asian foods so much when I am there I because of the fresh greens. Last year when I was in Vietnam I think lost like 5 kilos in three weeks or something, and that was not because of any food poisoning or so.

Here in Europe it is super challenging to get foods that are not overly processed. Even the decent stuff like olive oil is literally a jungle or all fabricated and refined oil (aka garbage) and for looking for the decent wone it might take you some time.

The market for me is the place to be in Asia, but when I had to my market here..it is still entirely with fast growth chicken and sprayed veggies. To me it is even worse that in the most places in Vietnam.

I guess just that stuff is fresh and homegrown, that makes all of the difference

the markets are where the fresh food is for sure. Those places need no regulation because the outdoor market customers are self-regulating. If you have crap products, people don't buy it, period. Indoor shopping centers though - which I prefer because it is a million degrees outside, tend to not have the same supply. I suppose if I want the real deal, I am going to have to suffer a bit. This won't solve my yogurt issue though :)

Hello @gooddream I am with you with these predicaments when it comes to choosing healthy foods in the market. I think the best choice would be to prepare them on your own at home;this way, you can always control the ingredients and the use of additives. Also, you may try homemade salads that are easy to prepare like cucumber salad or vegetable salad such as bitter gourd salad. Backyard gardening will also be helpful in achieving your healthy lifestyle goal.

Cooking at home would be the healthiest choice, but as you've mentioned, finding the ingredients can be a challenge. Unhealthy choices are more readily available, especially when you shop at supermarkets. Also, MSG is something Asians use a lot... they surely make dishes delicious, but it's unhealthy. T_T

And yes... sometimes, it's not about the ingredients, but the preparation... XD

I'm trying to cook at home, it just gets so frustrating. I've gotten to the point where I just shop online now because walking to various stores only to have them more often than not be out of anything other that processed food garbage is too frustrating and time-consuming.

I can imagine. Going to such stores is kind of a waste of time and effort. XD

I think almost everywhere is like this. Grocery store shelves are full of highly processed foods with artificial sugars. The best way for us to eat real foods are to plant them ourselves and cook them ourselves. However, our society now--the busy-ness of life--have made it impossible. It's frustrating actually.

yeah, I think that restaurants could really make a killing if they were to prepare whole food meals for people in a rush. Even if it was done with massive trays that were prepared that morning and had to be reheated, I would take that over the chemical filled garbage that most restaurants have these days.

While the west got a head start on fatness I think it is only a matter of time before Asian countries catch up. The popularity of eating at 7-11 is hilarious because almost everything in that store is preservative filled trash, yet there are people lining up to get it day and night.

I agree. When I was working in Thailand any kids who had any sort of money in their family just ate garbage food all the time. Welcome to obesity south-east Asia.

at the private school there is a noticeably high rate of "hefty" children and almost zero sport ability. To me that is just bad parenting.

I have to agree with you that what's out there in the market are cheap and unhealthy food. The sad thing about it is healthier options are also on the expensive side, while these "unhealthy" meals are cheaper, making it accessible to almost everybody =(

One of the Vietnamese I tried was their spring rolls in the Philippines. It comes in different sauces and that's what I love about .I wish I could try some of the food you posted. They look delicious.

careful with the sauces. A lot of the sauces (at least here) or more like pancake syrup than anything else and likely come out of a container that NEVER expires because there is nothing natural about it.

Thank you for the tips.

You have to cook your self and buy fresh ingredients and cook from scratch. I cook for the family almost every other day and you just learn starting out with simple dishes.

I think that this is the route that I am going to have to go down.

The best and only route really and you will see how cheap food is compared to buying ready meals.

Health is wealth and that is good to start a new lifestyle of how we choose what we eat ..very nice idea and the food in picture looks delicious..have a great day

Because of people wanting everything to be instant, kids eat trash almost everyday.

Thanks for posting in the ASEAN Hive Community.

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